Game of Thrones Recap & Review Podcast: S5 E5: Kill the Boy

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Rachel, Clare and Brendan discuss the halfway point of the season’s E5 “Kill the Boy.”

  • David Johnson

    Yeaaa Its Up. Amaze Me You 3!!!!

    • Clare Kramer

      Ha! Hope you enjoy! Can’t wait to hear your thoughts.

  • Clare Kramer

    Enjoy everyone! This was one of my fav episodes this season thus far; albeit only 4 plot points addressed. Actually that’s part of what lead to the appeal of the episode for me. There is so much going on in GoT w/ characters, locations, etc., that sometimes the story is served well by minimizing the storylines you are trying to follow in that one hour. I will say, as I did on Twitter earlier, Stannis is becoming one of my top five characters. It was mentioned this week that the relationship between Ramsey and his father echoed the Stannis/Shireen father daughter talk that happened E4 – however, the stories, like much of the episode’s other juxtaposition story lines paralleled the opposing forces of good/evil nicely. Thoughts?

    • David Johnson

      I didn’t like Stannis last season because I thought he was just under the Priestess power! But this season especially after last weeks Father Daughter moment has got Me to think He’ll be helping the final ruler or rulers finally take the Iron Throne. Even though don’t think He’ll survive till the end of next season!!

      • Josh Pireson

        I agree. This season has shifted my opinion on Stannis!

  • Just listened…Great ep, guys! When are they going to end this build up?! It’s great stuff, but they really need to get to the meat of something.

    • David Johnson

      Battle of Winterfeld is still a couple episodes away.

      • SO READY for that! Is that what you see as the big payoff for the season?

        • David Johnson

          For the Action Part of the season, the might be a little sub-plot battle with White Walkers that gets the Wildings to go for Jon Snows idea!

  • David Johnson

    First time when Sansa enters Winterfeld & Myranda gives Her the evil eye I thought She would be trying to kill Sansa. But after Ramsay explains Shes nothing now that Hes royalty i think She’ll help Sansa survive Ramsay!

  • David Johnson

    Melisantra has the blood from the Barasttion Bastard from last year that they haven’t shown Her use!!!

    • guyblur

      Are you referring to Gendry’s blood? Because she did use that in some kind of black magic ritual with the leeches. She put a voodoo whammy on the three false kings (Robb Stark, Geoffrey Baratheon, and Balon Greyjoy), and she’s taking total credit for the demise of the first two.

      • David Johnson

        Yes She did, forgot about Her eliminating the competition!!!

  • David Johnson

    Entering Valyria reminded Me of when Captain Willard enters Kurtz Outpost in Apocalypse Now!!!

    • TOTALLY! The erie river scene… Except the stone men were a little scarier than the fake arrows.

      • David Johnson

        Well Captain Willard sort of looked like a Stone Man when He finally snapped!!!!

  • David Johnson

    Jamie killed His Cousin to try to escape before He lost His hand!!!! So Lannisters don’t mind killing family!!!

  • David Johnson

    Ramsays going to die in a 3 way, Sansa Theron, & Myranda take Him out!!!!

    • Liz K Clark

      Ramsey does just need to go – but Brendan made a great point when he said he’s exactly the type of character you write for, and as a writer can write anything for him – as it all plays into the character’s unperdictibility, if you will.I bet the writers keep him around longer than others if there is an option to choose between two characters.

      • Exactly. At this point you can put him in any situation and have him do anything you want… And he’s intersting, considering his past. Could be a great anchor for a scene or a new plotline. I just wish they would stop alluding to something big if they’re not going to do anything with him

  • David Johnson

    Theron was given to the Starks as a Hostage because the Greyjoys were on the wrong side of the rebellion! Both his brothers died during the rebellion & as a child He was given up but treated like family by the Starks. It was all explained when He went home just before He captured Winterfeld & was taken prisoner by the Boltons.

  • Liz K Clark

    Okay a second episode w/out Arya – so that’s annoying – but I agree Clare that the stories were well served by only having four plotlines. I wish more on Jorah and Tyrian – as their scene was short. I guess what I’m missing this season is the great dialogue that seems the killed off character’s spoke… Oberyn, Tywin, the Hound, and yes, even Joffrey – all those characters had exceptional dialogue and hardly any of it was exposition. They were so colorful in their language and delivery. Without King’s Landing and without much of Tyrian in an episode we do get a lot of exposition. True, Stannis is growing on me as well, and at least his backstory in E4 served a purpose of humanizing him, as much as Roose Bolton’s exposition to Ramsey of his conception serves to show he too is a monster…. but in E4 I would have rather seen more useful fun plot forwarding than Brienne’s backstory, which anyone could have guessed. Anyway, so glad to see Olenna in the previews for next week.

    • There has been many episodes (just building up eps) that have extended into too many plotlines and it just gets way too crazy to keep up with. 4 tops is good.

  • guyblur

    The question was asked during the podcast why Jorah and Tyrion were in Valyria. I’m pretty sure Jorah explained this during the episode that they were trying to sail to Meereen un-noticed, and that by skirting Valyria, they could avoid pirates and other dangerous types who (wisely) avoid Valyria.

    • Yep, I believe you are correct. If you miss those subtle little conversations that happen, which in normal shows you’d just ignore, you will actually miss a ton of what is actually happening in the show.

    • Liz K Clark

      It’s funny what some people remember and others miss – and that’s why I listen to this and other GoT podcasts. I like the insight into what I may have overlooked. I missed the rose thing completely from E4.

      • guyblur

        I agree. I can’t believe I missed Stannis making a pedantic grammar correction (less vs. fewer), during the Wildling debate. When I heard that on the podcast, I had to rewatch the episode, just to see that bit.

        • I missed it too! I would have been a much bigger fan right after the last episode had I heard that. Haha

  • Juliette Wolfson

    Great podcast! I love how subtly the Lannister family went from being all high and mighty to slowly crumbling and meanwhile the Starks started out doomed but the kids are now slowly all rising to power. I want Starks to win it all SO badly!

    • That’s all so obvious, yet I failed even view it that way… You’re so right. There’s a big switch taking place. Yet, though it may not seem like it now, I kind of feel like Tyrion could be on a slow rise to greatness.

    • Liz K Clark

      I agree. But not ALL the Lannisters are horrid – Tyrion is still destined to be a great leader – and hopefully with the convergence of Dany, Tyrion, Bronn and Jaime there will be some unity created again amongst the two brothers. On the other field the Stark girls are both growing, and with Jon’s lineage becoming more clear, both Sansa and Aryas power is exemplified.

      • David Johnson

        Plus You have the 2 little brothers one wandering with the Wilding Woman. & the other tripping in the cave!

        • They’ve been out of the picture for what seems forever. It’s going to be interesting to see how/when they fold that back in.

  • adgrace

    Danny would be Jon’s aunt if the R+L=J theory is true.

    Sam joined the NIght’s Watch because his father disregarded him so he wanted Sam to renounce his title as his oldest son and heir so his younger brother could take the role. He threatened to take him hunting and have an “accident” if he did not do this and take the black.

  • HyperJ

    Re: why going to Valyria… They are going through it because Valyria is in the middle of Volantis and Mereen. See map: http://loopingworld.com/misc/westeros.jpg
    Most sail around it by a wide margin, but Jorah as a small boat and wanted to A) avoid pirates and B) take a shortcut.

    And again … DaenerYS. Not DaenerIOUS. 😉

    I also believe that Rachel is correct about “There must be a Stark in Winterfell”. Bran the builder did indeed use magic when he helped build the Wall and other fortresses (including Winterfell), so I would not dismiss it out of hand.

  • Daniel Callahan

    I’ve really enjoyed the podcast so far. As a reader of the books, I love hearing the pure show watchers figuring out the deeper relationship between characters and making predictions on the future. And now that the show is outpacing the books, readers and watchers can start to be equally surprised and entertained by the path the show takes. One thing, I can’t imagine the Bronn and Jaime storyline converging with Tyrion or Meereen anytime soon, as is frequently suggested in the podcast. Remember, Bronn and Jaime are in Dorne, in the south of Westeros. That is an entirely different continent and half a world away from the ruins of Valyria or Meereen. The brothers won’t be seeing each other this season.

    • Good point. I do love the mystery behind the divergence from the books. Ironically, it’s the exact approach usually hated with audiences, but with GoT it seems to work.

      Thanks for your support of the show!