Game of Thrones Recap & Review Podcast: S5 E6: Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken

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Rachel, Clare and Brendan discuss the Season 5 Episode 6 “Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.”

  • David Johnson

    Alright its my Grownup After School Special!!!!!

  • David Johnson

    Screw the Pronunciation Police Rachel!

  • David Johnson

    To be a Faceless Man/Woman You have to know how to become someone Your Not!!!!

  • David Johnson

    The Sand Snakes knew Jamie & Bronn from the guy they speared in the head at their tent.

  • David Johnson

    Only Free Men are suppose to fight in the Pits not slaves!!!

  • mal

    The thing I don’t like about that Sansa scene was that they are again using rape as a plot point.Rape as character growth or development is such a trope, and so lazy, IMO. Yes, this world is horrible for women, and rape is not uncommon, but they’ve already established that over and over and over again. And I don’t trust the show (based on past history), that it will come to anything substantial for Sansa. Plus, in the show Sansa is 14, which makes it infinity more gross (yes, she tells Tyrion in Season 3 she’s 14, so she’s15 at most).

    Myles McNutt is more articulate on this scene in his AV Club review: “Rape can’t just be used as part of a theme, nor is it a theme unto itself. It is a vicious act that the show has unfortunately treated as almost unspeakable to this point in the story, which has subsequently robbed it of its potential value to the narrative and left behind a problematic set of politics….And the fact that they chose this scene is unsurprising but also disappointing, further heightening the sense that the rape was just for shock value”

    • Brendan Cowles

      Obviously a well thought out point by Mr. McNutt but I have to disagree to at least half. The “set of politics” left behind by this scene is a byproduct of current events and the fact that violence against women, and rape in particular is a hot button issue and very much in the zeitgeist right now (as it should be!! It’s a massive issue — I have two daughters). If anything I feel the showrunner’s tamped down this sequence because of the current temperature out there for this issue, and their portrayal of it felt more in keeping with a current political correctness than the wild, untethered, and flat out barbarous foundation this show was built on. Personally, I didn’t want that scene to be any more explicit than it was, but at the same time I can recognize the portrayal as inconsistent as compared to other atrocities depicted. Which is why this scene couldn’t, in my opinion, be considered a stunt for shock value. People are getting their heads chopped off, burned alive, all sorts of dismemberment, etc etc, yet this is considered shocking? And it happened off screen? Heinous, yes. Could I have done without it, sure. But was I shocked. Not even a little. Thanks for posting mal… got me thinking about it more.

  • David Johnson

    Hasn’t Lady Olenna Tyrell sort of brought up the Lannisters Incest!!! Figure She took out Joffrey to protect Margaery!!!

  • David Johnson

    Will Reek tell Sansa His Biggest Secret this season. Sort of hope he doesn’t because then we’d probably have to see the little brothers again!!!

  • David Johnson

    If anyone takes out Ramsey it will probably be Reek/Theron or He’ll take the blame, because the Boltons won’t allow Sansa to get away with murder with war coming!

    • Brendan Cowles

      I hope it’s Theon on behalf of Sansa. Do you think we’re done with the “wedding night” scene or will it start the next episode in some fashion?
      I still think Sansa and Miranda are headed for a lethal catfight. Too much set up to not pay off a showdown between these two. Thoughts?

      • David Johnson

        I’m now thinking it will be Reek/Theron & I’m wondering if He’ll tell Her the truth about Her little Brothers? Last week I thought Miranda could possibly be an Ally to Sansa, but after last night (shes to petty for that) that thought went out the window. Thinking Sansa takes Her out, hell shes keep Her hand clean for over 4 1/2 Seasons that’s to long with this story!

      • Liz K Clark

        Totally agree – and agree that it should be Sansa to take her out – although it remains to be seen how much of a threat exactly Miranda is vs. a simple annoyance. Guess it depends on how much Ramsey actually “loves” her – if he’s capable of love at all. I’d like to see her as more than a pawn for Ramsey… Maybe she’ll see the light now that Ramsey as married and align herself with Sansa to help her take out Ramsey and Dad Bolton. Wishful thinking….

  • Tosha Cook Ncics

    JMO and No I’m not a book reader…..@clairekramer, @racheltrue and @Brendancowles I think you all are going to be disappointed next week. I don’t think Ramsey is going to die until ep.9 or next season. I also don’t think it will be Sansa killing him either. I think Reek or Miranda due to her growing jealousy will be the one to kill Ramsey. I’m glad that they did not show the Sansa scene but the fact that you are hearing her being put through it was key to the scene and that to me is what makes you feel for Sansa and I do agree I did not like it being the end scene. Listen, we all knew something bad was going to happen to Sansa by Ramsey and I was already prepared for it but I am glad not to have seen it. I don’t know about everybody else but I see what Little Finger is trying to do and he is playing this chess game very, very well. I don’t know how you can’t pick up on it but that scene with Cersei was powerful to me and he basically laid it out if you think about all the moves he’s made since Season 1. Little Finger knows exactly what he is doing….I’m just waiting to see if he gets his end results b/c don’t forget him and Varys called each other out so to speak so it’s almost a race to see who’s game or chess move plays out better and who’s game will get there 1st. Thanks for taking time out to do this podcast I love hearing it each Monday.

    • David Johnson

      Wonder how Varys has been handling losing His Dwarf. Will He meet up in with everyone in Meereen for part of the season 5 cliff hanger????

      • Brendan Cowles

        Varys better come back this season! Love that creepy/brilliant man.

        • Clare Kramer

          Varys will be back, as it is LittleFinger and Varys pitched agains each other for power and alliances. Remember, they both have networks of alliances across the Kingdoms. Also, with Varys being a eunuch I’m beginning to think he may have some sound advice for the unsullied…

          • Liz K Clark

            Ha! You’re funny. Well, with Grayworm’s love interest development it lends question to how unsullied the unsullied actually are….

    • Brendan Cowles

      I’m so intrigued with Littlefinger’s moves. I can’t really see the end game yet but it’s getting a little less murky each week. He is a dangerous man! Thanks for listening!

    • Clare Kramer

      I get it about your opinion on Sansa not being the one to kill Ramsey. I actually agree she won’t – which is what made the scene more problematic for me personally. I felt the showrunners would have been more justified if (and that’s a big if) Sansa were the one to slit Ramsey’s neck in the next few beats of the scene. But I agree, it will more likely be Reek. In terms of LittleFinger, I agree he HAS BEEN playing brilliantly. However, he’s not wise to Ramsey’s history, and he’s not IMO wise to Cersei’s fading of power. The scene itself was very powerful – but I’m not sure how well the execution of his layered plan will work. I guess we’ll have to stay tuned!

      • David Johnson

        Ramsey also knows Reek/Theron didn’t kill Sansa’s little brothers even though He did send a hit man after them. Hodor under the Cripple Brothers remote control took care of Him though. But if Ramsey doesn’t get killed this season do You think it will be Him or Reek that tells Sansa?

        • Liz K Clark

          I don’t know that Sansa would believe either one of them, so there needs to be a third party who educates Sansa.

          • David Johnson

            Well the littlest Brother was heading South with the Wilding Woman.

      • Dale Baines

        Clare, why would you think Sansa is even capable of slitting anybody’s throat? She’s never been trained as Arya has, she has since the beginning been set up as the spoiled girly-girl who wants to marry a prince. She has no fighting skills. If she had tried to kill Ramsay, she would most likely have been overpowered, OR if, say, she’s lucky enough and she succeeds, what then? The Boltons still have control of the North, and the fact that she is back means little since she has no army backing her. She could be immediately killed by Roose Bolton or worse. There’s no logic to her killing Ramsay at that moment OR even soon after until she has some security within her surroundings. The growth of this character is her ability to withstand something like this and like Baelish, play the long game. I know it was a rape scene but I also think it’s belittling to her as a character that she’s just being seen as a victim. Like Brandan said, she went into this with eyes wide open, she knew the role she had to play; grant it, she and Peter might not have known how horrible Ramsay really is, but don’t forget, in some ways, she was in a worse situation when she was forcibly married to Tyrion. She lucked out because he turned out to be a good guy. It wasn’t even a gratuitous rape scene by GoT standards. And I think the purpose of shifting the focus to Theon is not only for creative purposes–we could then be spared the brutality of the scene–but also to equalize these two characters because they have both gone through horrible ordeals in their lives (Theon was almost gang-raped himself, and of course then tortured and castrated and dehumanized by Ramsay), so when the day comes where they finally are able to turn the tables on people like Ramsay, it would be all the more satisfying. Of all the rape scenes in GoT, I think this one was actually the most meaningful. I feel completely horrible saying that about any rape scene, but after this, I am hopeful that we will be seeing a different, even tougher and smarter Sansa, and I also hope it will serve as a turning point for Theon as well.

        • i don’t want to speak for Clare, but I think it was just wishful thinking on all our parts that she would slash his throat… Or at the very least, that Reek/Theron would.

          • Dale Baines

            Oh, I understand that. And I don’t want Sansa to just slit his throat. I want her to order him castrated and then flayed. That mofo has to die a slow, painful and humiliating death.

          • Hahaha, exactly… It’s certainly going to make is death that much more enjoyable. What a despicable character!

        • Brendan Cowles

          Wow. Well put! We have achieved cerebral alignment my friend.

  • Clare Kramer

    Hey guys, thanks for listening! We’d love to hear your thoughts in the comments below on the episode, so jump in! xo

    • Liz K Clark

      Another great episode. I really love having writer Brenden on the show. He’s articulate and adds a needed insight and voice. Ever thought about expanding the podcast past the season, and shifting focus onto other reviews, advice and such throughout the GoT dead zone?

  • Jim Roper

    Has anyone mentioned that Bronn was cut by one of the Sand Snakes? Look what happened to The Mountain after the fight with Oberyn. Was Bronn poisoned?

    • David Johnson

      At least Hes in the city where they would know how to treat it, Hopefully!!

  • BrainRush

    Let’s clear up this whole “Cersei doesn’t have power to make Little Finger warden of the North” thing. Insofar as she can influence Tommen–which is a lot, for now–yes, she does have the power. The throne in King’s Landing is still the center of power and authority in Westeros–maybe not for long, but it is for now. Just as Joffrey gave Roose Bolton Winterfell for his betrayal of the Starks, so Tommen can make Little Finger warden of the North once Roose and Stannis are out of the way.

    • Brendan Cowles

      Very good point. I think Clare (and I agree-ish with her) is projecting a bit with Cersei’s “loss of power.” You are absolutely correct that she is, at the moment, extremely powerful. She’s sent most of the counsel on bs errands, and she has empowered the High Sparrow and his now Faith Militant, who at the moment happen to be doing her bidding according to plan. And on top of that Tommen is a complete wet noodle. He makes Varys seem Drogo-virile in comparison…. Ha… Drogovirile… that should be a word. Anyway, on paper, Cersei is looking damn good. BUT Clare’s crystal ball is telling her, nay, screaming at her that the Faith Militant are only in alignment with her because she is pointing them at “sinners” but if she takes her eye off the ball for a second they may shine their holy blacklight on her… and you’d have to shield your eyes from the hits of light! Boom. And let’s face it, Tommen is a pin cushion in waiting. Somebody’s already chosen his head spike and is having it detailed. Thus…
      Cersei is a puppet master so focused on her endgame she doesn’t notice the grim reaper standing right behind her!

      • True and good theories all around, but I have to believe that Cersei’s true downfall is going to come from Lady Olenna Tyrell. She’s a bit long in the tooth, but she’s far from done.

  • Brendan Cowles

    Question for all the outraged GOT fans… where was the outrage when, as commentor Dale Baines succinctly put it, “Theon was almost gang-raped himself, and of course then tortured and castrated and dehumanized by Ramsay” ??? Were you going to leave the show then? Hmmm? I almost quit the show on behalf of Theon!… Ohhhh Ma-God… GOT is soooo mysandristic!