The Movie Crypt: Ep 165: Producer Cory Neal

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The enigma of ArieScope, producer Cory Neal (HATCHET 1-3, FROZEN, HOLLISTON) finally speaks in his first ever public appearance proving he actually is a real person and not just a made-up name in the credits of well over a dozen films. From growing up in Montana and getting an MBA in finance from Notre Dame to realizing very quickly that the corporate world wasn’t for him, Cory’s unique journey into becoming an indie film producer and finding himself in charge of the business workings of ArieScope is shared in detail. How does one convince a financier to invest in a film and how has it changed from “then” to “now”? Where do the profits actually go? How do you find your film family? What’s it really like working with characters like Adam Green and Joe Lynch? And did he really once beat up 3 high school kids at the same time? Listen, learn, and laugh as the guys explore the long, hard road of trying to get a movie off the ground, made, and released.

Cory and Joe spill some details about an upcoming film, “Head Producer” Civitella Pacino stops by, and Green and Lynch announce some of the exciting events you can expect during their upcoming 3-day live podcast (Aug 5th – 7th) to benefit SAVE A YORKIE RESCUE. Want to hear what’s in store first? Then follow @Adam_Fn_Green and @TheJoeLynch on Twitter. And definitely follow @Arwen_Fn_Green who’s excitement over saving so many fellow Yorkies has her giving out hints for many of the benefit’s guests and events before even the guys know about them.

Want to keep this program going? Then buy something from us or donate to The Movie Crypt by “feeding Arwen a treat” in the on-line store at www.ArieScope.com. We can’t keep going if our mascot goes hungry!

  • One-Eye

    Apparently after the show ended Cory disappeared in a puff of smoke and hasn’t been seen since.

    • Jason West

      He’s a time traveler. SHHHHH

    • Adam Green

      HA!

  • Rhys Lyons

    So, after listening to this episode, I’ve got a question about investing and investors…

    So it is not likely to make money investing into the films, but an awesome time and adventure will be had, but is it likely to recoup the investment even if there is no profit?

    Hypothetically if I won the lottery tomorrow and wanted to give both of you a million dollars to finance a film, what are the odds I would at the minimum even get my investment back?

    Thanks,
    Hope all is well with you both!

    • Adam Green

      The job of the filmmakers is to be smart about how they’re doing it and present potential investors a concrete plan that shows how the project is as guaranteed as possible (there are never 100% guarantees, of course) to recoup whatever amount they are asking the potential investor to risk. Thus doing the homework on what similar films are worth for foreign sales or actually pre-selling the project to foreign countries based on the cast (thus the “lists” that exist of “who means what to which countries”) so that your investor is taking as minimal a risk as possible. If you won the lottery tomorrow and said you had two million dollars to produce two films we wouldn’t ask for a million a piece unless we could first show you projections and as detailed a plan as possible for how to at least recoup your investment. Of course there are filmmakers out there who just want as much money as possible for their films with no regard for their investor’s financial safety but if you want to make a CAREER out of this it’s your main job to at LEAST get your investor(s) paid back if not also make them somewhat of a profit for the huge risk they are taking on you. That’s why sometimes you’ll hear investors say “with such-and-such actors in the cast I’ll make the film for X amount… with a lower foreign valued tier cast I’ll only give you Y amount… and without at least SOMEONE involved who helps market this and bring an audience (ie. a notable name cast member or a director or producer where the trailer can say “From the guy who brought you [movie that was financially successful]” to help attract customers) I’m not doing it at all.” 10-15 years ago there were more investors willing to straight up gamble on financing films simply because they believed in the filmmakers and their projects as back then most films USUALLY still made their money back thanks to Blockbuster video, DVD/Blu-Ray sales, etc. But in today’s climate where so, so many people will only watch films on a streaming service and a good chunk of people just straight up pirate/steal all of their media… those days are gone. Point is- as a filmmaker your track record is EVERYTHING so it should always be just as important to you that your investor will at least get their money back. So always figure out a way to make each film for the smallest amount possible and treat their investment as if it is your own money on the line because in many ways it IS because it is your future. If you keep losing people’s money you won’t have a career. That’s why we always stress that when artist’s say how badly piracy is fucking them it’s not about the fact that THEY themselves want “more money” – they just want to be able to work again. The business is already so fucked that the artist is the last one to see any profits anyway unless the project is SO successful that it reaches a point where profits can no longer be hidden and they have a good deal in place with the project from the get-go. But every time someone watches your work illegally they’re taking away from your shot at ever working again. Especially if you’re a first time filmmaker with no big previous success to point to when approaching future investors.